PBS NewsHour; November 10, 2019, 5:30pm-6:00pm PST (2024)

- Captioning sponsored by WNET - >> Thompson: ON THIS EDITION FOR - SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 10: - IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY ENTERS A NEW - PHASE THIS WEEK WITH PUBLIC - HEARINGS. - AND IN OUR SIGNATURE STORY, - HUMANITARIAN AID WORKERSLONG - THE BORDER FACE INCREASING - PROSECUTIONS UNDER FEDERAL LAW - NEXT ON "PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND." - >> PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND IS MADE - POSSIBLE BY: - BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ. - SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III. - P THE CHERYL AND PHILSTEIN - FAMILY. - SALIND P. WALTER, IN MEMORY - OF GEORGE O'NEIL.BA - ARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG. - ACORPFUNDING IS PROVIDED - EDY MUTUAL OF AMERICA, DESIGNING - CUSTOMNDIVIDUAL AND GROUP - RETIREMENT PRODUCTS.

- NRETIREMENT COMRE YOUR - ADDITIONAL SUPPORT HAS BEEN - PROVIDED BY: - AND BY THE CORPORATION FOR - PUBLIC BROADCASTING, A PRIVATE - RPORATION FUNDED BY THE - AMERICAN PEOPLE. - AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR - S STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE - YOU. - THANK YOU. - OM THE TISCH WNET STUDIOS AT - LINCOLN CENTER IN NEW YORK - MEGAN THOMPSON. - >> Thompson: GOOD EVENING ANDFO - THANK YOJOINING US. - THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY WILL - ENTER A NEW PHASE THIS WEEK WITH - THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARINGS - SCHEDULED BEFORE THE HOUSE - INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. - ON WEDNESDAY, WILLIAM TAYLOR, - UKRAINE, AND GEORGE KENT, A - SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL - IN CHARGE OF UKRAINE WILL - TESTIFY. - ON FRIDAY, FORMER AMBASSADOR TO - UKRAINE MARIE YOVANOVITCH WILL - TESTIFY. - YESTERDAY, REPUBLICANS SUBMITT - NAMES OF AT LEAST EIGHT PEOPLE - THEY WOULD LIKE SEE TESTIFY, - INCLUDING FORMER VICE PRESIDENT - JOE BIDEN'S SON, HUNTER. AND THE - AND THE ANONYMOUS WHISTLEBLOWER, - WHOSE COMPLAINT KICKED OFF THE

- IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. - ADAM SCHIFF, THE DEMOCRATICHO - CHAIRMAN OF THE - INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, - RESPONDED IN A LETTER THAT THE - HEARINGS "WILL NOT SERVE AS - OUHICLES FOR ANY MEMBER TO CARRY - THE SAME SHAM INVESTIGATIONS - RATO THE BIDENS OR DEBUNKED - CONSES ABOUT 2016 US - ELECTION INTERFERENCE THAT - PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSED UKRAE - TO CONDUCT." - SCHIFF ALSO WROTE THAT THE - WHISTLEBLOWER HAS THE RIGHT TO - REMAIN ANONYMO THAT - EVIDENCE ALREADY COLLECTED - CONFIRMS THE WHISTLEBLOWER'S - COMPLAINT. - HOW THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY - STARTED, AND THE PROCESS SO FAR, - REMAINS A POINT OF CRITICISM FOR - REPUBLICANS. - >> I CONSIY IMPEACHMENT IN - THE HOUSE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US - TO KTLNOW WHO THE WHLOWER IS - TO BE INVALID. - BECAUSE WITHOUT THE - WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT WE - WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT ANY OF - >> Thompson: REPUS ARE - ALSO ADDRESSING SOME OF THE - UNDERLYING ALLEGATIONS THAT - PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSED UKRAINE - TO INSTIGATE A POLITICAL - RIVAL, POSSIBLY IN RETURN FOR - MILITARY AID. - >> I BELIEVE IT WAS - INAPPROPRIATE, I DO NOT BELIEVE

- IT WAS IMPEACHABLE. - >> HERE ARE THE TWO POSSIBLY - SCENARIOS: NUMBER ONE, E - PRESIDENT ASKED FOR AN - INVESTIGATION INTO A POLITICAL - RIVAL. - NUMBER TWO: THE PRESIDENT ASKED - R AN INVESTIGATION INTO - POSSIBLY CORRUPTION BY SOMEONE - WHO HAPPENS TO BE A POLITICAL - RIVAL. - THE LATTER WOULD BE IN THE - NATIONAL INTEREST. - THE FORMER WOULD BE IN THE - PRESIDENT'S PAROCHIAL INTEREST - AND WOULD BE OVER THE LINE. - >> Thompson: DEMOCRATS ARE - DEFENDING THE INQUIRY AND - E THAT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS - WILL PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE. - >> WE HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE FROM - THE DEPOSITIONS THAT WE'VE DONE - TO WARRANT BRINGING THIS - FORWARD, EVIDENCE OF AN - NGEXTORTION SCHEME UAXPAYER - DOLLARS TO ASK A FOREIGN - GOVERNMENT TO INVESTIGATE THE - PRESIDENT'S OPPONENT. - BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE - WITNESS RAISE THEIR RIGHT - HANDS AND TAKE QUESTIONS FROM - BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. - THE PRESIDENT IS GOINTO GET - THAT. - MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE - IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND WHAT'S - IN STORE THIS WEEK, NEWSHOUR - CORRESPONDENLISA DESJARDINS - JOINS US NOW FROM WASHINGTON,

- D.C. - COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF - HAS ALREADY REJECTED AT LEAST - TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT - REPUBLICANS WA TO SEE TESTIFY - NTER, BIDEN AND THE - WHISTLEBLOWER. - ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE ON THEIR - LIST THAT WE THINK THAT - DEMOCRATS WILL GO FOR? - >> Reporter: MY GUESS IS THAT - TH - VOLKER, THE FORMER U.S. ENVOY TO - UKRAINE. - HE IS SOMEONE THAT REPUBLICANS - AND DEMOCRATS THINK HELPS BOTH - OF THEIR CASES. - AND HE TESTIFIED IN BEHIND - CLOSED DOORS AND I THINK IT'S - ALSO VERY POSSIBLE THEY'LTWCALL - THE OTHEWITNESSES THEY'VE - ALREADY HEARD FROM BEHIND CLOSED - DOORS. - THAT'S DAVID HALE, HE'S THE - NUMBER THREE OFFICIAL AT THE - STATE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW, AND - THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, TIM - MORRISON. - HE'S A NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL - OFFICIAL WHO RECENTLY LEFT. - REPUBLICANS LIKE HIM BECAUSE - HE'S WELL KWN TO THEM. - HE USED TO WORK AS A HOUSE - STAFFER. - DEMOCRATS BELIEVE HE ALSO ADDS - CREDENCE TO SOME OF THEIR - THEORIES. - SO THOSE THREE, I THINK WE COULR - SEE, IN AGREEMENT ON - HEARING FROM FOR BOTH PARTIES. - >> Thompson: WHAT ELSE STOOD OUT - TO YOU ABOUT THIS REPUBLICAN - LIST? - >> Reporter: WELL, THIS IS N A - UNIQUE THOUGHT FOR MEREBUT IT IS

- INING THAT NOT ONLY DO - REPUBLICANS WANT TO CALL THE - WHISTLEBLOWER, WHOSE NAME THEY - SAY TH DON'T KNOW, OR THAT - PUBLIC BECAUSE IT'ECTEDNG OUT IN - FROM LAWMAKERS DISCLOSING, BUT - THEY ALSO WANT TO CALL ANYONE - WHO HELPED THAT WHISTER - PUT TOGETHER THE LETTER RAISING - EDCOMPLAINT, ANYONE WHO HEHE - WHISTLEBLOWER ALONG THE WAY - >> Thompson: ARE REPUBLICANS - COMPLETELY UNITED IN THEIR - DESIREWE TO SEE THE WHISTLEB - TESTIFY? - >> Reporter: OH, I DON'T KNOW IF - REARPUBLICANUNITED ON THE - NUANCES HERE, BUT I DO THINK - THE PUBLICANS ARE UNITED IN - WANTING TO TRY AND FIND OUT WHAT - SOTHIS PS MOTIVATIONS WERE. - IS THIS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED - WITH DEMOCRATICFFICIALS IN THE - ST AND COULD HAVE A POLITICAL - BIAS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT? - TT.Y ALL WANT TO FIND THAT - THEY DISAGREE ON HOW FAR TO GO - TO DO THAT. - >> Thompson: WHITE HOUSE CHIEF - OF STAFF MICK MULVANEY DID NOT - SHOW UP ON FRIDAY TO TESTIFY, - EVEN THOUGH HE DID RECEIVE A - AND NOW WE'RE LEARNING THIS - WEEKEND THAT HE'S JOINING A - LAWSUIT OVER HOW SUBPOENA POWER. - WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT? - >> Reporter.: IT'S FASCINATI

- MULVANEY, WHO HIMSELF IS - TECHNICALLY THE TOP STAFFER ATE - WHITE HOUSE, IS SAYING - THAT HE IS UNSURE IF HE SHOULD - FOLLOW WHITE HOUSE DIRECTIVES - THAT HE NOT TESTIFY OR IF HE - SHOULD COMPLY WITH THE SUBPOENA. - THIS IS A CHANGE FROM HIS FLAT - REFUSAL BEFORE. - MULVAY W, RATHER THAN JUST - FLAT REJECT THE SUBPOENA, IS - SAYING, "HEY, I WANT TO WAIT FOR - A COURULT TOIN." - THERE'S A LOT OF STRATEGY HERE. - WE COULD GO ON FOR HOURS, BUT - ESSENTIALLY, I THI MORE OF - WHAT MULVANEY IS DOING HERE IS - HE DOESN'T WANT TO ADD TO - DEMOCRATS CASE FOR OBSTRUCTION. - HE WANTS TO SAY, "HEY, THE ONLY - REASON'M NOT COOPERATING IS - BECAUSE I'M WAITING FOR A - COURT," RATHER THAN "I REFUSED - TO." - DEMOCRATS THINK HE IS - OBSTRUCTING THEIR INVESTIGATION, - AND THEY WILL RAISE THAT - >> Thompson: ANOTHCENTRAL - PLAYER IN ALL OF THIS IS - PRESIDENT TATMP'S PERSONAL - RNEY, RUDY GIULIANI. - DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT REQUESTED HIS - TESTONY. - WHY IS THAT SO INTERESTING? - >> Reporter: YOU KNOW, THEY DID - SUBPOE DOCUMENTS FROM MR. - GIULIANI IN SEPTEMBER, SO EARLY - ON HE REFUSED, AND THEY BELIEVE

- THAT HE WOULD CONTINUE TO REFUSE - A SUBPOENA FOR TESTIMONY, BUT - NONETHELESS, THEY HAVEN'T ISSUED - IT. - I AM WONDERING MYSELF EXACTLY - WHY THEY HAVEN'T ISSUED THAT - SUBPNA, AND WE KNOW THAT - REPUBLICANS ALSO HAVE NOT - REQUESTED HIS TESTIMONY. - WHAT YOU MIGHT TAKE AWAY FROM - THIS IS BOTH SIDES BELIEVEE - COULD EITHER BE A SHIELD OR A - DETRIMENT TO THE PRESIDENT, - AND BOTH SIDES ARE NERVOUS - POTENTIALLY ABOUT HIS TESTIMONY. - AT THIS POINT, I WOULDN'T BE - SURPRISED IF HIS NAME COMES UP - LATER, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT AND - SEE. - THERE'S A LOT OF VERY-- THERE'S - A LOT OF CAUTION ABOUT RUDY - GIULIANI. - BOTH SIDES KNOW HE'S - UNPREDICTABLE. - Thompson: SO THE HEARING - WILL KICK OFF ON WEDNESDAY - MORNING. - WHAT CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE - HAPPEN? - HOW IS IT ALL GONNA WORK AND - WHAT ARE YOU GONNA BE LOOKING - FOR? - NE Reporter: WELL, I THINK - ANHO WANTS TO COME NEED TO - GET IN LINE EARLY. - I EXPECT A LONG LINE FOR THIS - ONE, AND WE'RE GOING TE - GONNA HAVE THREE WITNESSES THIS - WEEKEND, STARTING WITH BILL - TAYLOR, WHO NOW THE LEAD - AMBASSADOR, THE LEAD DIPLOMAT - RATHER IN UKRAINE AND KIEV, - FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER STATE

- DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL,E - KENT, A LONG-TIME CAREER - FICIAL HERE IN WASHINGTO - AND THEN FINALLY, NEXT WEEK WILL - WE HEAR FROM THE FORMER - IVANOVICH.O UKRAINE, MARIA - THESE ARE ALL THREE OF THE - TNESSES, DEMOCRATS - FEEL, FOR THEIR CASE THAT THE - PRESIDENT OR HIS STAFF OR BOT - WERE TRYING TO EXTORT UKRAINE, - ESSENTIALLY TO FORCE THEM GET - INVESTIGATIONS IN EXCHANGE FOR - MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT UKRAINE - NEEDED. - SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT - ABOUT THAT FROM DEMOCRATS WITH - ALL OF THESE WITNESSES. - BUT IN THE MEANTIME, REPUBLICANT - ARL GETTING TOGETHER ON - EXACTLY THE POINTS THEY WANT TO - SH THE MOST. - THE MESSAGING HAS CHANGED AGAIN - AND AGAIN, BUT I THINK THEY'RE - MOST LIKELY TO RAISE THE IDEA - THAT NO ONE DIRECTLY CONNECTS - THAT IDEA OF A QUID PRO QUO OR - FORCING UKRAINE TO DO SOMETHING - FROM AID MONEY TO THE PRESIDENT. - NONE OF THESE WITNESSES HEARD - THAT DIRECTLY FROM THE - PRESIDENT. - THEY ALSO ARE VERY LIKELY TO - RAISE THESE OTHER INVESTIGATIONS - THAT THEY THINK ARE THE REAL - PROBLEM. - THE IDEA OF HUNTER BIDEN, WHAT - WAS HE DOING IN UKRAINE AND THE - 2016 ELECTION? - WE MOCOULD SE FIGHTS ABOUT

- WHETHER THAT IS A CONSPIRACY - THEORY, AS DEMOCRATS SAY, OR - SOMETHING RELEVANT AS - REPUBLICANS ARGUE. - >> Thompson: LISA DESJARDIN WE - LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING A LOU T - MORE FROM IS WEEK. - THANK YOU. - >> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME. - >> Thopson: BOLIVIA'S PRESIDENT - EVO MORALES RESIGNED LN E THIS - AFTERNTER THE COUNTRY'S - MILITARY LEADER CALLED FOR HIM - TO STEP DOWN AND AFTER WEEKS OF - , OTESTS. - JU HOURS EARLIRALES - CALLED FOR NEW ELECTIONS AFTER - THE ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN - STATES RELEASED A REPORT THAT - FOUND "A HEAP OF OBSERVED - IRREGULARITIES" IN OCTOBES - PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. - THREE PEOPLE HAVE DIED AND - VIOLENT NATIONWIDE INJURED IN - DEMONSTRATIONS SINCE THE - DISPUTED ELECTION. - IN IRAQ TODAY, VIOLENT - GOVERNMENT DEMONSTRATIONS - CONTINUED ONE DAY AFTER SIX - PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN CENTRAL - BAGHDAD. - SECURITY FORCES USED LIVE

- AMMUNITION, TEAR GAS, AND SOUND - BOMBS PROTESTERS WHILE - FIGHTING TO TAKE BACK CONTROL OF - THE LAST MAJOR BRIDGTHAT LEADS - TO THE GOVERNMENT HEADQUARTERS. - SECURITY FORCES ALSO PUT UP - CONCRETE BARRIERS IN CENTRAL - BAGHDAD TO BLOCK THE PROTESTS' - MOVEMENTS. - IRAQI SECURITY FORCES HAVE - KILLED MORE THAN 260 - DEMONSTRATORS SINCE THE PROTESTS - BEGAN IN OCTOBER. - MOURNING THE DEATH OF A STUDENT - ACTIVIST AND ANGRY OVER THE - ARREST OF MOCRACY - LAWMAKERS CONFRONTED POLICE IN - HONG KONG TODAY. - PRRS VANDALIZED A SHOPPING - MALL AND A SUBWAY STATION BEFORE - RIOT POLICE ARMED WITH TEAR GAS - CONFRONTED THEM. - PRO-DEMOCRACY LAWMAKERS ARE - WARNING THAT THE GOVERNMENT MAY - USE THE VIOLENCE AS AN EXCUSE TO - POSTNGPONE OR CANCEL HONG KO - DISTRICT COUNCIL ELECTIONS - SCHEDULED FOR LATER THIS MONTH. - ARRESTED SINCE THE PROTESTS BEEN - BEGAN SIX MONTHS AGO. - TR AIA, HALF OF THE MORE - THAN 70 WILDFIRES IN THE STATE - OF NEW SOUTH LES ARE STILL NOT

- UNDER CONTROL AND OFFICIALS ARE - WATRRNING OF CATHIC - CONDITIONS TO COME. - WINDS DROPPED SLIGHTLY TOREY - ACROSS THON WHERE THREE - PEOPLE HAVE DIED SINCE LAST - FRIDAY. - BUT FORECASTS OF HIGH - TEMPERATURES, STRONG WINDS AND - LOW HUMIDITY FOR TUESDAY CAUSED - OFFICIALS TO WARN RESIDENTS IN - SYDNEY-- AUSTRALIA'S LARGEST - CITY-- OF A CATASTROPHIC FIRE - DANGER. - IT'S THE FIRST TIME SYDNEY HAS - BEEN PLACED ON THE HIGHEST ALERT - SINCE NEW FIRE DANGER RATIS - WERE INTRODUCED IN 2009. - AND IN LONDON TODAY BRITISH - ROYALTY AND POLITICAL LEADERS - MARKED REMEMBRANCE DAY. - AT 11:00 A.M., BIG BEN SOUNDED - AND THE ASSEMBLED CROWD OBSERVED - A TWO MINUTE MOMENT OF SILENCE. - REMEMBRANCE DAY IS AN ANNUAL - EVT INHE U.K. TO COMMEMORATE - THE END OF WORLD WAR I IN - NOVEMBER OF 1918 AND TO HONOR - S.OSE KILLED THEN AND IN - SUBSEQUENT W - IN A SEPATE EVENT, 750,000 RED - PAPER POPPIES, USED AS SYMBOLS - OF THOSE WHO SERVED, WERE - DROPPED FROM A WORLD WAR II-ERE.

- LL - MERCURY ROSS BETWEEN THE - SUN AND THE EARTH ON MONDAY - MORNING. - WATCH IT LIVE AT - pbs.org/newshour. - >> Thompson: THIS WEEK AAN - HUMANITAID WORKER GOES ON - TRIAL IN ARIZONA FOR ALLEGEDLY - MIGRANTS WHO ENTER COUNTRY - ILLEGALLY. - THE CHARGES FALL UNDER U.S.IN - HARBLAWS WHICH PROHIBIT - PEOPLE FROM CONCEALING OR - SHIELDING ANY UNAUTHORIZED - INDIVIDUALS WHO COME INTO AND - REMAIN IN THE UNITED STATES. - BUT MIGRANT RIGHTS ADVOCATES IN - ARIZONA SAY THE FORCEMENT OF - THESE LAWS IS WHOLLY POLITICAL - AND IS BEING USED TO PRAH AN - ANTI-IMM AGENDA, - DISCOURAGING GOOD SAMARITAN - EFFORTS ALONG THE BORDER. - NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S IVETTE - LICIANO HAS MORE - >> THIS ONE SAYS, "VAYA CON LA - FUERZA DE DIOS," WHICH MEANS "GO - WITH THE STRENGTH OF GOD." - >> Reporter: ON A 90-DEGREE DAY - IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, PAIGE - CORICH-KLEIM AND MARIA RODRIGUEZ - SET OUT INTO ARIZONA'S CABEZA - PRIETA NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE - ON A MISSION. - THERE THEY LEFT CANNED FOOD,

- WATER AND SOCKS FOR ANY MIGRANTS - TRAVELING FROM MEXICO INTO THE - U.S. THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT - TERRAIN. - >> WHEN IT'S THIHOT AND PEOPLE - THEY ARE, DEHYDRATION IS AN - ISSUE, BUT ALSO HYPONATREMIA, - WHICH IS A ST AND ELECTROLYTE - IMBALANCE. - THINGS THAT MIGHT IN LIKE AN - EVERYDAY HIKE NOT BE A BIG DEAL - ALIKE BLISTER, OUT HERE CAN BE - DEADLY. - 'CAUSE THEY RESULT IN PEOPLE NOT - BEING ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THEIR - GROUP AND TTING LEFT BEHIND. - >> Reporter: CORICH-KLEIM AND - RODRIGUEZ ARE BOTH VOLUNTEERS - WITH THE INTERFAITH HUMANITARIAN - ORGANIZATION CALLED "NO MORE - DEATHS." - UNDOCUMENTED MIGRAATTEMPTINGS OF - TO ENTER THE COUNTRY ON FOOT - THROUGH ARIZONA'S DANGEROUS - DESERTS. - >> WTRACK ALL OF THE WORK THAT - WE DO AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE - LOOKING AT WHICH DROPSRE - EFFECTIVE, AND GETTING TO PEOPLE - WHO NEED IT, AND WHICH ONES - AREN'T. - >> Reporter: IT'S ONEVERAL - ORGANIZATIONS BORN IN THE LAST - 20 YEARS AS A RESULT OF WHAT THE - GROUPS CALL A HUMANITARIAN - CRISIS ALONG THE U.S.-MEXICO - BORDER. - IN THAT TIME, MORE THAN 7,500 - MIGRANTS HAVE DIED CROSSING THE

- BORDER, ACCORDING TO U.S. - BORDER PATROL STATISTICS - ANRE IN ARIZONA, MORE TH 3,000 - MI HAVE DIED IN THE - DESERT, ACCORDING TO THE PIMA - COUNTY OFFICE OF THE MEDICAL - EXAMIN - THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF BORDER - DEATHS IS UNKNOWN,ECAUSE THE - FIGURES ONLY INCLUDE CASES - REPORTED TO THE AUTHORITIES, AND - NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY BODIES - HAVE NEVER BEEN FOUND. - >> THE JOURNEY HAS GOTTEN A LOT - LONGER AND MORE DIFFICULT. - EVEN IN THE PAST 10 YEARS. - >> Reporter: CORICH-KLEIM - BELIEVES THE RISE IN MIGRANT - DEATHS HERE IS AIRECT RESULT - OF A BORDER ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY - THAT BEGAN UNDER PRESIDENT - CLINTON IN 1994 CALLED - "PREVENTN THROUGH DETERRENCE." - IT MORE THAN TRIPLED THE - ALNPOWER AND INFRASTRUCTURE - G THE BORDER AND CLOSED OFF - TRADITIONAL PORTS OF ENTRY - YSOSER TO MAIN ROADS AND - HIGHREROUTING MIGRANTS TO - SOME OF THE MOST BARREN AREAS OF - THE DESERT. - >> A LOT OF OUR OPS USED TO BE - REALLY BIG AND CLOSE TO ROADS. - AND JUST CONSISTENTLY PEOPLE ARE - GETTING PUSHED INTO MORE AND

- RE REMOTE CORRIDORS. - >> Reporter: IN A PRESS RELEASE - THERE ARE 34 RESCUE BEACONSID - LOCATE - SECTOR, AND THAT IT RESCUED 750 - PEOPLE IN FISCAL YEAR 2017. - VOLUNTEERS WITH THE GROUP "NO - MORE DEATHS" ALSO GO ON ARCH - AND RESCUE MISSIONS AND DOCUMENT - BORDER ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY. - BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS - THEY'RE BREAKING T LAW. - IN RECENT YEARS, SEVERAL HAVE - BROUGHT AGAINST THEM.CHARGES - THIS YEAR, FOUR WERE CONVICTED - ON MISDEMEANOR CRIMINAL CHARGES - THAT STEMMED FROM AN ENCOUNTER - WITH A U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE - OFFICER AT THE CABEZA PRIETA - NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE. - THE CHARGES INCLUDED ABANDONING - PESONAL PROPERTY, WHICH FEDERAL - REGULATIONS PROHIBIT, AND - ENTERING A PROTECTED WILDERNESS - AREA WITHOUT A PERMIT, SOMETHING - ALL VISITORS TO THE WDERNESS - REFUGE MUST OBTAIN AND SIGN. - 22-YEAR-OLD ZAACHILA OROZCO IS - ONE OTHOSE CONVICTED. - > WE DID NOT HAVE PERMITS

- BECAUSE WE DID NOT AGREE WITH - THELAUSE THAT INDICATED THAT - ONE COULD NOT LEAVE FOOD AND - WATER AND OTHER SUPPLIES IN THE - DESERT BECAUSE, TO US, THAT - INFRINGED ON THE HUMANITARIAN - AID WORK THAT WE WERE PROVIDING - AT IS NECESSARY. - >> Reporter: WHAT WAS YOUR - REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD "FEDERAL - CHARGES?" - >> A LITTLE LUDICROUS? - I DON'T KFRNOW. - I MEAN THE VERY BEGINNING, - THE PROSECUTION WAS PUSHING FOR - MAXIMUM PENALTIES. - WHICH INCLUDED SIX MONTHS IN - AND $5,000 PER CHARGE.CHARGE. - >> Reporter: A SPOSPERSON FOR - THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE - SERVICE TOLD PBS NEWSHOUR - WEEKEND IN AN EML THAT "ALL - VISITORS ARE REQUIRED AND - EXPECTED TO ADHERE TRAL - LAWS AND REGULATIONS WHILE - VISITING REFUGE LANDS." - A FEDERAL MAGISTRATE JUDGE - ORDERED OROZCO AND HER THREE - CO-DEFENDANTS TO EACH PAY A $250 - FINE AND SENTENCEDHEM TO 15

- MONTHS OF UNSUPERVISED - PROBATION. - THEY ARE ALL CURRENTLY APPEALING - THE DECISION. - >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW. - >> Reporter: IT'S A SITUATION - THAT REVEREND JOHN FIFE, A - CO-FOUNDER OF "NO MORE DEATHS, - IS FAMILIAR WITH. - >> THIS IS THE LATEST ATTEMPT-- - AFTER LONG-- HISTORY OF - THREATS AND ATTEMPTS TO-- - CONVICT US OF VARIOUS-- - SO-CALLED CRIMES FOR PROVIDING - HUMANITARIAN AID OUT THERE. - >> Reporter: HE SAYS SINCE 2005, - SEVERAL "NO MORE DEATHS" - VOLUNTEERACS HAVE F FELONY - CHARGES FOR TRANSPORTING - UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS, AND - CRIMINAL MISDEMEANORS FOR - LEAVING FOOD AND WATER IN THE - DESERT. - >> WE HAVE THAONSIBILITY - UNDER THE LAW AND UNDER - INTERNATIONAL RED CR - STANDARDS. - THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS CODE - OF CONDUCT SAYS, CLEAR - EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO - PROVIDE HUMANITARIAN AID IN - AN-- IN AN AREA OF DISASTER LIKE - THIS, WHERE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE - HAVE DIED.

- >> Reporter: AS AN ORDAINED - PRESBYTERIAN MINISTEST FIFE WAS - AR BACK IN 1985 AFTER HIS - CONGREGATION BECAME THE FIT - RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION IN THE - U.S. TO OFFER SANCTUARY TO - MIGRANTS WHO FACED DEPORTATION. - >> A REAL BUNCH OF DESPERADOS-- - THERE WERE TWO CATHOLIC PRIESTS - AND THREE NUNS AND THE DIRECTOR - OF THE TUCN ECUMENICAL COUNCIL - AND MYSELF WHO WERE CHARGED WITH - VARIOUS LONY CRIMES. - >> Reporter: AMONG OTHER - CHARGES, FIFE AND SOME OF HIS - CO-DEFENDANTS WERE EVENTUALLY - FOUND GUIL OF TRANSPORTING AND - CONCEALING UNDOCUMENTED - MIGRANTS. - 33 YEARS LATER, IN JANUARY OF - 2018, "NO MORE DEATHS" VOLUNTEER - SCT WARREN WAS ARRESTED ON - SIMILAR CHARGES, FOR ALLEGEDLY - HARBORING AND SHIELDING TWO - UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS FROM LAW - ENFORCEMENT AT THE GROUP'S - BASE-CAMP IN AJO, ARIZONA. - FIFE CONTENDS WARREN WAS SIMPLY - PROVIDING HUMANITARIAN AID IN - KEEPING WITH "NO MORE DEATHS"

- PROTOCOL.GA - >> H FOOD AND WATER AND - SOME MEDICAL CARE TO TWO - MIGRANTS WHO JUST SHOWED UP AT - OUR BASE CAMP. - >> Reporter: BUT IN COURT - DOCUMENTS, FEDERAL PROSECUTORS - DISPUTED THAT CLAIM, ARGUING - THAT WARREN "DID NOT PROVIDE - MEDIL ATTENTION, NOR WERE - PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THE - CHARGES IN DISTRESS." - THEY ALSO SAID HE WAS "NOT - REQUIRED BY HIS LIEFS TO AID - IN THEVASION OF LAW - ENFORCEMENT." - WARREN'S FIRST TRIAL IN A - MISTRIAL AFTER JURORS COULDN'T - REACH A VERDICT, BUT FEDERAL - PROSECUTORS WILL SEEK TO RETRY - HIM THIS WEEK ON TWOY - HARBORING CHARGES. - HE DECLINED AN INTERVIEW FOR - THIS STORY DUE TO THE PENDIN - TRIAL. - ON THE ENFORCEMENT EFFORT ALWAYS - DEPENDHAT THE POLITICAL - CONTEXT IS AND THE MESSAGING. - >> Reporter: LONGTIME MIGRANT - RIGHTS ADVOCATE AND LAWYER MARGO - COWAN SAYS SHE'S REPRESENTED - DOZENS OF HUMANITARIANID - WORKERS WHO HAVE FACED CRIMINAL - CHARGES.

- WE INTERVIEWED HER AT A MIGRANT - LEGAL AID CLINIC THAT SHE - SUPERVISES FOR "NO MORE DEATHS" - IN TUCSON. - >> WE HAVE GONE THRORIODS - WHERE THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS SAID - TO HIS CLIENTS, THE LAND - MANAGERS AND THE BORDER PATROL, - "DON'T CITE THESE PEOPLE. - DON'T-- DON'T BRING THESE CASES - TO ME. - BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO - PROSECUTE THEM." - >> Repter: ARRESTS OF PEOPLE - WHO PROVIDE AID TO MIGRANTS HAVE - BEEN ON THE RISE SINCE 2015, AND - SPIKED I2017 WHEN - THEN-ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF - SESSIONS ORDERED FEDERAL - PROSECUTS TO PRIORITIZE CASES - COVERED UNDER THE HARBORING - STATUTE. - IN FISCAL YEAR 2019, THERE WER - CLOSTO 4,000 CONVICTIONS FOR - "BRINGING IN AND HARBORING - CERTAIN ALNS," A 34% RISE - COMPARED TO FIVE YEARS AGO, - ACCORDING TO DA FROM SYRACUSE - UNIVERSITY. - >> THE IDEA TO PROSEA TE - SCOTT SENDSSAGE TO THE - LARGER COMMUNITY, "IF YOU SE - SOMEBODY LYING BESIDE THE ROAD, - YOU CAN'T STOP AND HELP THEM, - BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE A FELONY." - I MEAN, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF

- LEVELS OF COMMUNICATION THAT GO - ON IN THESE KINDS OF - PROSECUTIONS, NOT JUST DIRECTED - AT THE VOLUNTEER. - >> Reporter: JOHN FI BELIEVES - BORDER PATROL AGENTS TARGETED - "NO MORE DEATHS" BECAUSE OF A - RERT THE GROUP PUBLISHED ON - THE MORNING OF SCOTT WARREN'S - ARREST. - I VT INCLUDEO ALLEGEDLY - SHOWING AGENTS DESTROYING - GALLONS OF WATER THEY'D LEFT FOR - TRAVELERS IN THE DESERT, AN ACT - THE GROUP SAYS THE BORDER PATROL - FREQUENTLY PERFORMS. - T>> WE RELEAST REPORT AND - SENT A COPY TO THE BORD PATROL - AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING. - BY 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, AGENTS - D RAIDED OUR BASE CAMP AND - CHARGED SCOTT WARREN WITH FELONY - CHARGES. - >> Reporter: U.S. CUSTOMS AND - BORDER PROTECTION DID NOT - RESPOND TO PBS NEWSHOUR - WEEKEND'S REQUESTS FOR AN - INTERVIEW OR WRITATEMENT - DESPITE THE LEGAL CHALLENGES - FACING "NO MORE DEATHS" AND - OTHER GROUPS, FIFE BELIEVES THAT - THE U.S. GOVERNMENT'S ACTIONS - WILL DO MORE TO HELP THEIR CAUSE

- TH TO HINDER IT. - >> EVERYBODY WHO'S DOING - HULYNITARIAN AID WORK GLOBAL - T LO SAES-- WE HAVE A - RESPONS - MAINTAIN OUR RIGHT TO PROVIDE - MANITARIAN AID. - SO, THE CHARGES HAVE REALLY-- - GALVANIZED AN INTERNATIONAL - AWARENESS OF THE BASIC HUMAN - RIGHT-- TO PROVIDE HUMANITARIAN - AID UNDER THESE CIRc*msTANCES. - >> THIS IS PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND, - SUNDAY. - >> Thompson: IN THE RUSSIAN - REGION OF NORTH OSSETIA AN 83- - YEAR-OLD WOMAN IS STILL - DELIVERING THE MAIL-- ON FOOT. - SHE'S BECOME SOMETHG OF A - CELEBRITY, AND AFTER MORE THAN - 50 YEARS ON THE JOB, NEITHER - MOUNTAIN ROADS NOR FANS WHO WANT - SELFIES SLOW HER DOWN. - SIX DAYS A WEEK, EKATERINA - ARDZALAEVA WALKS AOUS 25 - MILE ROUND TRIP ROUTE,

- DELIVERING THE MAIL TO THREE - SMALTOS IN A MOUNTAINOUS - REGION NEAR RUSSIA'S BORDER WITH - GEORGIA. - AFTER BE OING PROFILLOCAL - TELEVISION, SHE'S BECOME - SOMETHING OF A CELEBRITY. - SHE'S OFTEN STOPPED ALONG HERFO - ROUTSELFIES AND HUGS. - >> ( translated HE): WE RESPECT - AGE VERY MUCH, ESPECIALLY - CONSIDERING THAT IT IS A - MOUNTAIN AREA. - I DON'T INK IT'S EASY EVEN FOR - YOUNG PEOPLE TO WALK ALONG THESE - ROADS. - >> Thompson: : N 83, DZALAEVA - WAS INSPIRED TO BMAOME A - POSTWODURING WORLD WAR II - WHEN HER BROTHER WAS SENT TO THE - FRONTLINES AND LETTERS WERE THE - ONLY SOURCE OF NEWS. - >> ( translated ): THEN I TOLD - MYSELF THAT WHEN I GROW UP, I'L - DEFINITELY BECPOSTWOMAN. - THEN PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING FOR - ME AND THEY WILL LOVE ME. - >> Thompson: HER BROTHER NEVER - RETUGED FROM THE WAR, SENDIN - HIS LAST LETTER IN 1942. - SHE SAYS WALKING THE MOUNTAIN - ROADS IS BOTH FINANCIALLY AND - EMOTIONALLY BENEFICIAL-- - BRINGING HER RELIEF FROM - THOUGHTS OF FAMILY SHE HAS LOST - >> ( translated ): MY SALARY - ISN'T THAT BIG, BUT IT HELPS ME.

- I FIND IT EASIER WHEN I'M - WALKING. - I FIND IT EASIER WHEI CHAT TO - PEPLE. - I'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF SORROW - AND I THINK ABOUT IT WHEN I'M - DOING NOTHING AND IT'S DIFFICULT - M - BUT WHEN I LEAVE HOME, IT'S - EASIER. - >> Thompson: THESE DAYS, - DZALAEVA DOES TAKE AN OCCASIONAL - OFFER OF A RIDE ALONG HER MAIL - ROTE, BUT MOSTLY SHE WALKS. - 25 MILES A DAY-- SIX DAYS A - WEEK. - >> Thompson: NEWSHLL - BROADCAST THE UPCOMING - IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY PUBLIC - HEARINGS LIVE ON WEDNESDAY AND - FRND STREAM THEM ON DEMAND - ON ALL DIGITAL PLATFORMS. - WEDNESDAY'S HEARING SET TO - 00BEGIN AT 1.M. EASTERN - TIME. - CHECK YOUR LOCAL STATION'S - COVERAGE.FOR ADDITIONAL - AND TOMORROWS VETERANS' DAY-- - A DAY TO HONOR AND ALL WHO - SERVE OR HAVE SERVED IN OUR - ARMED FORCES. - THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF" - PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND."

- I'M MEGAN THOMPSON. - THANKS FOR WATCHING. - HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. - Captioning sponsoredy WNET - Captioned by - Media Access Group at WGBH - access.wgbh.org - >> PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND IS MADE - POSSIBLE BY: - BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ. - WACHENHEIM III. - THE CHERYL AND PHILIP MILSTEIN - FAMILY. - ROSALIND P. WALTER, IN MEMORY - OF GEORGE O'NEIL. - BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG. - CORPORATE FUNDING IS PROVIDED - BY MUTUAL OF AMERICA, DESIGNING - CUSTOMIZED INDIVIDUAL AND GROUP - RETIREMENT PRODUCTS. - THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOUR - ADDITIONAL SUPPORT HAS BEEN - PROVIDED BY: - AND BY THE CORPORATION FOR - PUBLIC BROADCASTING, A PRIVATE

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PBS NewsHour; November 10, 2019, 5:30pm-6:00pm PST (2024)

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